Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Hey guys, what do you think of this? Really real? Maybe rotj? http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Stormtroop ... 0030062820 Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk-4224 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 whoooo they look so real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 the seller told me he got it from John Frost, who worked with SDS. So it should be an ANH although it does not look like it for me, but I never saw a real mold. So who knows. This molds were made by John Frost to meet the demand to that time. The seller got all the other armor parts also but lost them. Thats what the seller told me! Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 öööhmmm, hard to tell if this is a real prop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Not buying it. The fifth and sixth teeth are non-existent. The original buck would have those CLEARLY defined. And, there are NO air holes. In order to pull what we've seen, it has to have airholes pre-drilled in all the traps, eyes, etc. Someone will be paying serious loot for hydro-cal in the shape of most likely a TE recast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 EDIT: I see a few air holes in the corner of the eyes, and on that mass between the two face plates. But that's not enough to make the pulls we've seen me thinks. I'm sure Tony can attest to this subject with clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 There are airholes in it but not very much. I agree with the tooth holes. I saw more detailed fanmade molds. I mailed jez what he thinks of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Another tell is that the teeth insets are tapered. those would/should be much deeper and not curved-in, an obvious tell of a recast as it's taking the shape of a pull that never trully takes the exact shape of such a small detail like the smaller teeth. That whole frown should be super sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk-4224 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 hm look at the two face pic the 2 masks are totaly different to each other he should make better detailed pics if he`ll sell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm with Mike; I have my doubts about the authenticity of this mould. It seems to be lacking the air holes needed, and like has been stated, the detail is not sharp enough. It looks kinda smooshed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk-4224 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 ok UK guys like i said to mike on the messenger go and make a test pull how it comes out the point of the 2 different faces is a reason that said it´s no recast IMO but what is this? SW has a lot of mysterious things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 could this mould be one made later on to fill 'demand'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm feeling like this thing looks familiar to me. Has this come up before? Oh, and it would be easy to make a two sided recast, just use two faceplates. Or, copy it twice and join it in the middle with more material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 It is interesting to know what Andrew Ainsworth can say about it. He should know if this is a fake. But if you ask him if his own helmets he is selling are screen accurate he would say yes? Is Gino out there to clear it? Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk-4224 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 but seth aren´t the two faceplates different? maybe i should polish my lenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 hmm I have seen this never before and I am checking ebay everday in a crazy way ...Its easy to recast to faces yes, but they look different do they? Modified recast or real original molds? There were different molds used in ANH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 But if you ask him if his own helmets he is selling are screen accurate he would say yes?He admits "fettling the tumblehome" but touts the original moulds thing. If they've been fettled, they are no longer screen accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 There were different molds used in ANH!Care to elaborate? From what I know there was one mould for the stunts, then that mould was modified to make the hero helmets. At most there were two, and that was if the stunt mold was left alone (it was supposedly damaged between the stunt version and the hero version) and the hero mould was based on a cast of pulls from the stunt helmet. There are almost no holes in those ebay moulds, there are more air holes in Mike's radio faceplate mould than there are on that whole thing. For that reason alone, I would doubt it's authenticity. Along with the soft detail at the teeth, and the complete absence of the 6th tooth, and the funny shape of the eyes. Anyone else remember this? I've seen it pictured before, but I don't think it was on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weiBes trooper Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Yes they do look old,but there is no way in my mind that this mold could produce a ANH faceplate,lack of detail and sparse vacuum holes.no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 So Matts 1st screen used helmet was only a bad pull? One teeth on the right handed side is missing. On the second te helmet it is present. But whats with molds for prototypes? I dont want to believe that this molds are original. I dont believe it is! But we cannot say it only because of things others told us. Recasters know a cast of the inside of a Te helmet but that is only one helmet! Whatever you get a bad helmet with that mold and all helmets I have seen are sharper than this would be I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weiBes trooper Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Good point Bro.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 They are nothing more than bad copies of a TE face plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 They are nothing more than bad copies of a TE face plate I think you're right. Matt G. emailed me with the same sentiment. For what it's worth, the weathing is fairly convincing. I hope someone does thier homework before shelling out 2000 pounds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-459 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Wow, this is if nothing else interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'dib Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 It is very convincing as far as the "aging" goes. I understand the suspicion we all have to have concerning "original" trooper stuff but wouldn't it be something if it were legit? And what if some shlub gets this all-important piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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