Rolf Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 AP aka autentic props offer a full anh armor stunt helmet version kit for 450 dollars + shipping 75 dollars in us 175 dollars over seas, now in 60 thick pvc plastic. Normal price is 800 dollars + shipping for a full kit, 80 thick abs plastic. What do you think... is pvc 6o thick good for trooping, or what. or Regards troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 i don´t know much about the flexibility of pvc but it think it might be ok for trooping if you try to be careful and don´t troop very often in it. the hardcore troopers here, who also want to sit down or troop very often in it should get the thicker material! the price is a really good deal if you only want to display the suit on a mannequin! that´s only my 2 cent, but i´m not familiar at all with the different kinds of materials and characteristics of these. maybe paul can give some answers. who in this world but him could know! he has the knowledge and experiences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I'm only familiar with PVC in the thick pipe form, and it's difficult to cut and sand and makes a mess... anyone played with it in sheet plastic form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearden6521 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I emailed Mark about a week ago. He stated that it would be I asked him about the differences and the thickness. He stated that it's more firm and thinner than ABS but will be durable to withstand trooping and have more detail because it's thinner plastic. He needs enough interested people to "request" it. He wants a $200 deposit up front. If he gets enough people, the production will start in November 2006. He's calling the PVC armor the "econo" kit due to price difference of PVC and ABS (price is cut in half). I am highly considering this due to saving $400+ Here is Mark's email address to order the econo kit or ask questions... authenticprops@hotmail.com If anyone signs up, please start a new thread!!! I think more will sign up once they see others doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Sorry RoCKo,but I don't know about PVC yet from experience,just that I know it's available in different grades.I think you'd want less firm if you want to troop in armour,something that will flex without cracking,something like.......... -Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD1009 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I want my armor to do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk-4224 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 some people lay down PVC on the floor it´s a very resistant material for the kitchen or other rooms where a lot of people workin and it´s very flexible pvc pipes are very sturdy so i think if you get the right mix you will have a material like in Pauls pictures ok i think paul didn´t use some kind of pvc but paul you show us these nice pics how thick is the material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Sorry RoCKo,but I don't know about PVC yet from experience,just that I know it's available in different grades.I think you'd want less firm if you want to troop in armour,something that will flex without cracking,something like.......... -Paul Showoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 paul, i can´t find the right words but..... WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hyperfirm armor? Truly Paul - that is totally out of this world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmann Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Holy cow! Armor is not supposed to do that! If you built a suit out of that stuff, you'd have no problem recreating this image: Paul, can you divulge what material that is? Charlie TI-386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 ...Paul, can you divulge what material that is? Charlie TI-386 Please?? I would live, eat, breath, poop... well maybe not poop... but do everything in armor that flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 At least pull down your trousers before pooping Mike. No kidding though, I could wear that stuff constantly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 guys, both of you need some time to rest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Can't reveal anything just yet.I think this might be the same material that was used for the original suit's,just maybe thinner guage.This is .80 (2mm) and can bend and twist without any cracking,but still quite rigid.I still have a few other types to try and I'll let you all know which is the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD 8733 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Very very cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 back to the PVC AP topic; I find it humorous that the price drop is justified by PVC material being cheaper than ABS. Seeing as it takes about $100 max. worth of ABS to make a trooper suit, I'm surprised that changing material drops the price in half. Unless it's much easier to pull & release in PVC (I doubt it), there has to be a catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'dib Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I think we might not find out what the drawbacks are until after people start receiving them out and have a chance to evaluate them. As for Paul's armor flexibility, AWESOME! I've ALWAYS thought that at least the ROTJ suits were like this. I refered to it as "spatula rubber". Remember this shot?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I think we might not find out what the drawbacks are until after people start receiving them out and have a chance to evaluate them. As for Paul's armor flexibility, AWESOME! I've ALWAYS thought that at least the ROTJ suits were like this. I refered to it as "spatula rubber". Remember this shot?: That's the one! Sure as heck isn't ABS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD1009 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 back to the PVC AP topic; I find it humorous that the price drop is justified by PVC material being cheaper than ABS. Seeing as it takes about $100 max. worth of ABS to make a trooper suit, I'm surprised that changing material drops the price in half. Unless it's much easier to pull & release in PVC (I doubt it), there has to be a catch. The AP email stated: PVC is flexible with same gloss finish than ABS but way less expensive, easier and faster to form, reducing our production cost in half You have to wonder what the catch is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 It is strange. According to Matt G. they tried to do some PVC trooper helmets early on, and they were a pain to free from the moulds. The forming itself only takes a few minutes, it's getting moulds out that takes some time. The reasons given in that email seem pretty flimsy if you know much of anything about vac forming. I know AP uses a professional former, but still; I don't get it. That only means they can form more at once, unless PVC is more flexible and has more "memory" I can't imagine freeing the moulds would be any easier than with ABS or HIPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakengine Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Awesome pics, TM. As far as PVC goes, I've worked a good bit with PVC foam (expanded PVC), but never with PVC sheeting. In fact, I'd never even heard of sheet PVC until this came up in another thread recently. I checked with Mcmaster, and they stock white PVC sheets in a variety of thicknesses, but also stock PVC/ABS sheets and PVC/acrylic sheets. I've never handled any of these, but it seems there may be more than one material being referred to as "PVC". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Sorry RoCKo,but I don't know about PVC yet from experience,just that I know it's available in different grades.I think you'd want less firm if you want to troop in armour,something that will flex without cracking,something like.......... -Paul WOOOWWWW!!! , what is this Its really... REALLY COOL Paul. Ill think we all have some storrys about geting hurt, or cut buy ower armor while trooping ex. This Rubber luxus anh armor off yours, will be to troop like in your best pyjamas. {SMILIES_PATH}/peace.gif Out standing {SMILIES_PATH}/8.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'dib Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 "Armor bites" go the way of the Dodo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Ill talk to autentic props aka Mark to day. He´s say that they still are in progress off finding the best flexible pvc plastic for trooping armor kit, before starting the project on it. Still 450 dollars + shipping for a full anh kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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