supa troop Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 How much time are we talking between Vader "Sending down a detachment to retrive the death star plans on Tattooine to the Sandtroopers watching the Falcon blast off from Docking 94. My point being the Sandtroopers got dirty quick time, and spread their Detachment pretty quick throughout the planet and on top of that they captured and Trained dewbacks too im inclined to think was there already an Imperial outpost on Tattooine, im not picking at the movie just intriqued on your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grit Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 i don't think so because there are empieral drop ships, they probably have been in dessert places before and maybe have the dubacks in a parts of the star destroyers but as we know the empier had many planets so there would be some sort of imperial presence every where but i think there would have been an outpost or 2 and they sent 4 reinforcements (paldrenles troopers) to help search tatowine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 ya if the imperials had more of an influence on the planet the Hut's wouldn't have so much power one would think. plus I mean they were out "combing the dessert" I would kill for a giant comb in kit instead of a blaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa troop Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 ya if the imperials had more of an influence on the planet the Hut's wouldn't have so much power one would think. plus I mean they were out "combing the dessert" I would kill for a giant comb in kit instead of a blaster Yeah i thought this too, in the prequel Qui Gon mentions that the Hutts control Tattooine and then moving Forward to ANH and ROTJ we get a first hand glimpse that the Hutts do indeed control the planet, we already now that a day passes by due to the twin suns sunset so im kind of leaning towards that perhaps a few days have gone by or the Imperial Stormtroopers move pretty quickly I kind of like the idea that Sandtroopers are a specialised Unit within the Empire and are dropped into military action as and when needed sort of the Grunts of the Empire. cireky the mind boggles with the SW universe, any more thoughts from anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandatrooper Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think the TD's are too weathered to be "sent down". The script describes them as "battle hardened" so I think they are already on the planet, and they are ordered to investigate. It's only a few days from what I can gather based on what I see in ANH: Day 1: - Tantive IV is attacked, the droids bail out in the escape pod, and they crash land during the day time. - Vader orders a detachment sent down to retrieve them - the droids are shown wandering around in the day time (same day) - 3po is captured by Jawas - starting to get dark, R2 is captured (night time) Day 2: - I think the TD's find the escape pod on this morning - the droids wake up overnight in the Sand crawler - the doors open and it's day light (the next day) - they are auctioned off - Luke cleans the droids until dinner time - R2 escapes while Luke is at dinner - Luke stares at the sunset - it's too dangerous to go out at night to look for him - during the course of this day, or the next morning, the TD's find the Jawas but no droids, so they destroy the Sandcrawler. They trace the sale of the droids to the Lars homestead Day 3: - Luke and 3po go look for R2 - they find him in the desert - Luke attacked by sand people - Ben finds him - they go to Ben's house - the TD's have already been to the Lars homestead looking for the droids, and they murder the Lars. They probably figure it's best to head into town and look for Luke and the droids. - Luke and Ben find the sandcrawler destroyed - Luke goes back to the homestead to find his aunt and uncle are murdered (the sun is low in these scenes, which means it's close to the end of day) Day 4: - I think they get to the cliff overlooking Mos Eisley (a wretched hive of scum and villainy by the way...) the next day / morning - the go into town looking for transport - they meet Han and Chewie in the Cantina - the TD's are already searching the town, and are called in to check out a disturbance in the Cantina (It's Davin and the Stop that Ship! trooper that investigate) - Luke and Ben go sell the speeder - the TD's are knocking on doors looking for Luke or the droids - Garinden rats out Luke and the droids - Luke, Ben and the droids enter Docking bay 94 - the TD's march down the alley way to Docking Bay 94 and confirm with Garinden that they are inside - "Stop that ship! Blast em!" - Falcon takes off as TD's look on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa troop Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think the TD's are too weathered to be "sent down". The script describes them as "battle hardened" so I think they are already on the planet, and they are ordered to investigate. It's only a few days from what I can gather based on what I see in ANH: Day 1: - Tantive IV is attacked, the droids bail out in the escape pod, and they crash land during the day time. - Vader orders a detachment sent down to retrieve them - the droids are shown wandering around in the day time (same day) - 3po is captured by Jawas - starting to get dark, R2 is captured (night time) Day 2: - I think the TD's find the escape pod on this morning - the droids wake up overnight in the Sand crawler - the doors open and it's day light (the next day) - they are auctioned off - Luke cleans the droids until dinner time - R2 escapes while Luke is at dinner - Luke stares at the sunset - it's too dangerous to go out at night to look for him - during the course of this day, or the next morning, the TD's find the Jawas but no droids, so they destroy the Sandcrawler. They trace the sale of the droids to the Lars homestead Day 3: - Luke and 3po go look for R2 - they find him in the desert - Luke attacked by sand people - Ben finds him - they go to Ben's house - the TD's have already been to the Lars homestead looking for the droids, and they murder the Lars. They probably figure it's best to head into town and look for Luke and the droids. - they find the sandcrawler destroyed - Luke goes back to the homestead to find aunt and uncle are murdered (the sun is low in these scenes, which means it's close to the end of day) Day 4: - I think they get to the cliff overlooking Mos Eisley (a wretched hive of scum and villainy by the way...) the next day - the go into town looking for transport - they meet Han and Chewie in the Cantina - the TD's are already searching the town, and are called in to check out a disturbance in the Cantina (It's Davin and the Stop that Ship! trooper that investigate) - Luke and Ben go sell the speeder - the TD's are knocking on doors looking for Luke or the droids - Garinden rats out Luke and the droids - Luke, Ben and the droids enter Docking bay 94 - the TD's match down the alley way to Docking Bay 94 and confirm with Garinden that they are inside - "Stop that ship! Blast em!" - Falcon takes off as TD's look on. Thats good enough for me however if Tattooine is such an insignificant planet why would they already be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 r there any other dessert planets? i mean a lot of military's just don't hand out new gear cause your called up to go on a new mission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa troop Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 r there any other dessert planets? i mean a lot of military's just don't hand out new gear cause your called up to go on a new mission Exactly, and lets face it Sand wouldnt get you as dirty as those Sandtroopers we see on screen which again leads me to think they are a Specalised unit shipped in solely for the purpose of Seek and destroy from else where, however thinking about it Vader orders a detachment sent to the planet but again is this from the Star Destroyer or another near by planet ............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treg Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 maybe there was a giant sandstorm and that is how the troopers got dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjsavage7 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 r there any other dessert planets? i mean a lot of military's just don't hand out new gear cause your called up to go on a new mission Well, every time I was deployed (in real life) to the middle-east desert, I was issued new desert gear, including desert boots & desert uniforms. So thats possible. As for them being dirty so quickly, if they landed durning a sand storm, I think they would probably be about that dirty. I was blasted a few times in sand storms & I was pretty sandy. I don't think that would prevent them from being "specialists" of a certain terrain though. They did bring back packs that we never saw on Endor or Hoth, and they carried some pretty heavy fire power. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa troop Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Well, every time I was deployed (in real life) to the middle-east desert, I was issued new desert gear, including desert boots & desert uniforms. So thats possible. As for them being dirty so quickly, if they landed durning a sand storm, I think they would probably be about that dirty. I was blasted a few times in sand storms & I was pretty sandy. I don't think that would prevent them from being "specialists" of a certain terrain though. They did bring back packs that we never saw on Endor or Hoth, and they carried some pretty heavy fire power. Just my thoughts. Im glad your back safe and sound Did the sand make you Dirty or did the sharpness of the sand put wear and tear on your clothing and thats why you had new ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grit Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 there would be deserts on other planets and places with similar temperatures so they probs get shipped about allot or they have seen alot of action (unlike the tk on the dethstar and some of the star destroyers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Well, every time I was deployed (in real life) to the middle-east desert, I was issued new desert gear, including desert boots & desert uniforms. So thats possible. As for them being dirty so quickly, if they landed durning a sand storm, I think they would probably be about that dirty. I was blasted a few times in sand storms & I was pretty sandy. I don't think that would prevent them from being "specialists" of a certain terrain though. They did bring back packs that we never saw on Endor or Hoth, and they carried some pretty heavy fire power. Just my thoughts. hey man, thank you for your service. my studies haven't taken me into modern warfare. I was just going off older stuff. thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjsavage7 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Im glad your back safe and sound Did the sand make you Dirty or did the sharpness of the sand put wear and tear on your clothing and thats why you had new ??? Thanks. Well, unless there was a sand storm, usually just my boots would be sandy. The desert uniforms were used because they were a lighter, more comfortable material, and they were desert-camouflage, unlike the green camouflage we wore in-garrison. We just wear kinda greyish camo now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBoy Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I'm thinking they were preexisting....the squad seems to be too well accepted among the locals to be only have been there for a couple of days. For the criminals and smugglers in the cantina to just be like "whatever" when the squad comes in makes me think they were used to them popping in from time to time. If they were just getting to the planet they response would have been much different...more of a hmm maybe they are looking for me I better get out of here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grit Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I'm thinking they were preexisting....the squad seems to be too well accepted among the locals to be only have been there for a couple of days. For the criminals and smugglers in the cantina to just be like "whatever" when the squad comes in makes me think they were used to them popping in from time to time. If they were just getting to the planet they response would have been much different...more of a hmm maybe they are looking for me I better get out of here... or there looking for me ZAP! ZAP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground pounder Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I always thought the 'detachment' was the one first shown in ANH. Before the shuttle scene in the SE, I always imagined the detachment linking up with current Imperial forces (TDs) already stationed on Tatooine, thus the sandy on the dewback. Can't see the Empire hauling dewbacks around on a Star Destroyer, when they carry more efficient AT-AT and scout walkers. Always imagined them getting dirty from searching for several days. Also I always thought the larger space ports (Mos Eisley) already had a significant Imperial presence. Thus 2 TDs can walk in and through the cantina and pretty much dominate that place - the threat of Imperial forces was already established. Just my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa troop Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 i love threads like this .................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD2802 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I agree that it was a detachment that was sent down but doubt that they could've become that dirty in such short a span of time as attested by our actual real world vets in the field. What's often overlooked is that George was all about visuals as a cinematographer as well as a storyteller. The dirt level shown was improbable but secondary to conveying the image of 'hey these guys aren't your regular TKs' which is enough for the general audience. Same argument goes for pauldron colors; its up to the writers and fans like us to later rationalize the inconsistencies or meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk7713gra30 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Vader does state 'Send a detachment down to retrieve them , see to it personally Commander...' As stated above Makes me think they were sent especially, probably straight from another Op. Or Vader does not keep track of every deployment at soldier level, he leaves that to his Commanders. It just so happens that a detachment was already there for some reason ( previous Op- troubles-occasional check of locals) and were utilised Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Thats good enough for me however if Tattooine is such an insignificant planet why would they already be thereI figure Tattoonie was a little more than insignificant even though it looks it . I mean thats where salvery was, which brought in the main movie charaters. Also all of the "Scum" like the traders, smugglers, and not to mention it was once run by the huts.I would even like to think what we call HWT and the Sandies to have some kind of relationship. Like maybe even though the films were first that the HWT were knewly promoted/delpoyed as a spec ops from the norm TK to HWT then some evently became the TD's. Just a thought I guess. Maybe the HWT and TD's were the same scoping places like Naboo and Endor then the TD's got deployed to Tattoonie so they got more advanced packs and were like dirty/muddy from the other plantes which made the sand sick? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtrooper Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I was wondering if the troops shown on screen could have been a mix of local sandtroopers and some sent down by Vader's star destroyer. Maybe the leader came from the destroyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVE Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 My point being the Sandtroopers got dirty quick time, and spread their Detachment pretty quick throughout the planet and on top of that they captured and Trained dewbacks tooThis has been talked about a bunch... Here's one thing to consider... something about Tatooine's sand and dirt stuck to metal and armor. Period. Case in point, look at C-3PO right after they leave the escape pod. They're like 100 steps away from it, you can still see it in the background, and they look like they've been there for months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVE Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 And as far as the Hutts controlling things... there are plenty of government police forces all over the world which exist in societies where they are not the "real" authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grit Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I was wondering if the troops shown on screen could have been a mix of local sandtroopers and some sent down by Vader's star destroyer. Maybe the leader came from the destroyer? yer probibly coz there are some drop ships in the background Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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