yoshix Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 So it took a little less than a month for shipping from Russia to get this. I would like to make this trooper eventually and have many questions. First off, this thing is much bigger (and heavier) than I thought it would be. Its about 65" x 65". When I first tried it on I noticed it drags the ground. Then I thought, there must be a way to make it shorter and noticed that I can attach the bottom to the middle like so. Which makes me believe thats the inside so its hidden away. Leaving the top to hang down like a hood. Second, how is this thing supposed to sit? I'm pretty sure I figured out how it attaches, tied to my sholder straps. The reference photos I have dont really show too may details/ stitching etc. Its hard to tell what side to wear it on. Anyone have any reference photos from the back without a backpack on? My assumption is that it's made of wool so I'm not exactly sure how I want to dye it. This is what I have on hand at the moment so I may have to go out and buy another black RIT for natural Fabrics. Let me know what you use to dye yours. My next question is, what are we using for weathering/mud? Acrylic paints, spray paints or maybe something thicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraulein Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 edit - looking through all of the information on it - I believe it is cotton or canvas tarpaulin fabric. It MAY be dyeable. But it has a finish on it which makes it water repellant. Is the texture waxy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fraulein said: If you could link to where you got it, I could see what kind of fabric it is. It may be a cotton with a sateen finish. Which means it may not take a dye. If it is wool, then you don’t want to use hot water to dye it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/USSR-Original-Soviet-Russian-Army-WWII-Type-Soldier-Field-Canvas-cloak-tent-NEW-/282650413570?txnId=2005479608018 Thanks for the info, I didn't know that about wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraulein Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Read my edit Wool shrinks in hot water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Fraulein said: edit - looking through all of the information on it - I believe it is cotton or canvas tarpaulin fabric. It MAY be dyeable. But it has a finish on it which makes it water repellant. Is the texture waxy? I just put some water on it and it seems to be water repellent. I also saturated a small area and it did soak up the water. Ill give it a try with the RIT Black hopefully this weekend. Or do you think I should try to pretreat it with something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 You’re right about the bottom corner being buttoned up to keep it from dragging. on your second pic you can see the draw strings stitched into the plash in a crescent shape? By pulling these tight you will form the square into a cape shape with hood (hope that makes sense?) you can see a pic of mine from behind in the crl picture library: http://databank.501st.com/databank/File:Mimbpalatka1.jpg The material isn’t wool, it is more like a canvas and, to perform its intended military function, it has a waterproof coating. The technique I found for dyeing is simple persistence, keep dyeing it until it gets to colour you want, I think mine took 4 rounds. I then weathered by spraying various shades of grey acrylics. Any questions I can help with please hit me up and I’ll help anyway I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Dragon_a said: on your second pic you can see the draw strings stitched into the plash in a crescent shape? Oh, I see it now. Thank you very much! 9 hours ago, Dragon_a said: you can see a pic of mine from behind in the crl picture library: http://databank.501st.com/databank/File:Mimbpalatka1.jpg Is that after dying it four time? It still looks green. 9 hours ago, Dragon_a said: The material isn’t wool, it is more like a canvas and, to perform its intended military function, it has a waterproof coating. You used the dye for natural fabrics though right? 9 hours ago, Dragon_a said: The technique I found for dyeing is simple persistence, keep dyeing it until it gets to colour you want, I think mine took 4 rounds. Thank you for the info. I would have tried it once and thought it wouldn't work or that I did something wrong. Now I know to just keep at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 17 hours ago, yoshix said: Is that after dying it four time? It still looks green. No that is prior to dyeing it. I sent those pics through before the crl had been finalised, at the time there was a lot of discussion as to what colour the plash actually was. 18 hours ago, yoshix said: You used the dye for natural fabrics though right? This is the one I used Even after 4 rounds of dyeing it is very hard to get it pure black, nut for me a very dark black / green looks more the part. Any uneveness in the dye also just adds to the weathering affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 First attempt. They're much more wrinkles now which I'm not really sure how to get out, maybe I'll just leave them in As you can see, one side took the bye better than the other The leather circles shrink a little bit and got hard from the boiling water which I should have expected because I've dyef ammo pouches before and had the same issue. I don't think it's a big deal though as long as they don't fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraulein Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 It was probably the waxy finish that kept it from taking the dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Definitely keep the wrinkles in. I doubt troopers were ironing their ponchos in the trenches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 On 8/3/2019 at 11:38 AM, Fraulein said: It was probably the waxy finish that kept it from taking the dye. Agreed 14 hours ago, Dragon_a said: Definitely keep the wrinkles in. I doubt troopers were ironing their ponchos in the trenches Lol, its the trekkies that aren't allowed to have wrinkles. I just don't want too may wrinkles ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 So has this been confirmed as the bandoliers from the film? I was going to make mine from scratch then I saw that they a pretty cheap, if its the correct ones. To be honest I would only wear it for the approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 Weathering: This is what I had in mind to create the mud effect. The one in the middle looks like a good match, then here and there a small amount of brown (on the left) to make it less uniform. At first I was thinking I should try to thicken it but to be honest now I'm not so sure. I found this technique online of boiling cornstarch in water and adding it to acrylic paint to thicken it. Let me know what you guy think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 hours ago, yoshix said: So has this been confirmed as the bandoliers from the film? I was going to make mine from scratch then I saw that they a pretty cheap, if its the correct ones. To be honest I would only wear it for the approval. Yep those are the right ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Also the bandolier is pretty handy for stashing your wallet, keys and phone during a troop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Dragon_a said: Yep those are the right ones. What about this line? I'm assuming it's a simple stitching that you remove on yours, or is it only on the back and the front is plain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, yoshix said: What about this line? I'm assuming it's a simple stitching that you remove on yours, or is it only on the back and the front is plain? Its loose stitching which you can just pull out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 I got 4 of them. I plan to use the bottom one as its a less green as the others. Looks like the front has noticeable printing on it. I assume everyone is putting the font to there chest to hide the printing, unless there is a technical for removing it. I understand now that the light stitching on the bottom is for different magazine types and is designs for easy removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 I made inserts out of EVA foam. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. If anyone has tips on weathering and let me know. I've got a few extra if anyone needs one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 I've got to say, I'm definitely a fan of the cape now. I just put it on to see how it fits and feels. My wife thinks its really cool and its hard for me to impress her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 Getting some work done on the helmet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_a Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Looking good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshix Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 I didn't go crazy on details because I knew I was going to cover most of it up with paint. I used this dark grey mixed with water and plaster of Paris first. As it was wet, it was perfect. The perfect color and consistency. But when it dried, it came out way too light. So I added the black and waited a bit to let it thicken up before I applied it. I'm pretty happy with the results. I'm not quite finished yet, there are a few areas I want to touch up again and I may need to apply a top coat to seal it in when I'm ready. Also I made a few streaks I need to try to get out, Windex maybe? I might do some browns and tans to give it a more earth look and less grey. Haven't quite decided yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harenatrooper Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Looks amazing! What maker is your armor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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