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    Some thoughts on recent events

    in The Barracks

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    Maybe a better comparison, using the electronics, would be if Person A purchased a very expensive stereo that was no longer sold, but in high demand. Person A then spent the next two years figuring out how to replicate the electronics inside, and the began selling his stereo. Now Person B comes along, and figures out how to also make the stereo, but spends no time and invests no real funds, because the re-engineered stereo allows for it to be reverse-engineered for almost no cost.

    That analogy is bust. You can't substitute the codes of conduct from one "community" to another.

    The electronics business had a copyrighted stereo for sale and no matter whether it was pricey or now discontinued, both person A and person B should not make copies, as they are infringing on a company's copyright. Those rules are governed by International Law.

    The model kit community is pure black and white when it comes to recasting. There are the officially licensed products and there are the garage kits. Neither are condoned recast in the model kit community. However, the garage kit sculptors are infringing on a copyright they don't own, but they are sculpting a unique piece that no company has offered. According to International Law, they are law breakers, but are still protected by the community - even at times respected by the companies and sometimes gets imployed at the companies to sculpt licensed works.

    The prop community is yet another animal, with three separate sections. The officially licensed, but lesser accurate replica offerings by companies (some say they are free game for re-casting, I disagree for the most part). Then there are the (similar to garage kit sculptors) scratch-builders, who infringe on a copyright to bring possibly more accurate replicas to those who want it. The third section is the cast from screen used people, offering stuff directly from the screen used - the height of accuracy, you could say (again, some say they are free game for re-casting as they are in a sense re-casters themselves, again I disagree for the most part). Yes, they made copies of an existing item and is technically a re-caster of said item, but the difference with this one and the next re-caster in line is that he is not cutting into someone's profits or offerings - he spent lots of money on getting the original and have it cast. Without this person NO ONE would have accurate armor, as an example, but would be stuck with FX. Since LFL or an officially licensed company is offering wares at this level of accuracy to the originals, then that person BECOMES the "official" source for those items - without him they would never have been made available. Yes, it could probably have been more favorable to have LFL or some licensed company to make these, but they don't. That's the whole deal with cast from screen used - NO ONE IS OFFICIALLY OFFERING THOSE. But if there is no protection for the people who take it upon themselves to make that first generation copy from the screen used, then we won't see any more cast from screen used offered ever again out in the open and possibly also not in private either.

    No one can stop people from buying what they want, but we CAN educate as best we can. Giving re-casters a free-pass will send a wrong signal and what will be the point of banning them on other forums for re-casting if they can just come to a 501st controlled forum and continue their business, influence others and still have access to buying new stuff to re-cast? That's one heck of an insult to throw at the whole community and all other forums trying to keep these people's access to a minimum.

    Some thoughts on recent events

    in The Barracks

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    I'm totally with GINO on this one - 501st charter or not.

    If you buy the re-cast, you are doing exactly the same as the guy who buys the expensive stereo for cheap from some guy's trunk, because you don't want to spent what it costs to get it "legally". Stolen goods, nothing more.

    So, anyone recasting option 1 and 2 listed in this topic will go free - both from fan-made and from "cast from screen used"! Is THAT how it should be understood? That the 501st takes no stance what-so-ever on any re-casters, regardless?

    That's how it is written, so I guess that is how it should be understood. You want the wares, but takes no responsibility towards how you get them. That's low.

    If that is the official position of the 501st, then I will never recommend anyone from this group to anyone offering "cast from screen used" items and I will be very reluctant to sell anything to them, as the 501st charter doesn't protect that item from being re-cast.

    Not taking an official stance against this is equal to condoning it. There is no way around it.

    i'll leave it with this. what would the decision have been had Chris recast TE2 and not TE ( and i'm not saying that recasting Matts work is okay by any means but it's a question worth asking)

    Tell me what the difference between TE2 and TE is? Both are "cast from screen used"... **** the TE2 IS the former TE molds. What's the difference? I don't see any.

    If a strong stance against re-casters and the exclusions of those from the community and any forum, 501st or not, isn't taken... then it can be assured that people will think twice about wanting to offer anything accurate ever again. That is 100% for certain. Who would risk spending several hundred or thousands of dollars on getting the original, spending large amounts of money and risk destroying that original to make copies for interested people... if they don't have the protection of the community and the 501st to secure them from being re-cast.

    The 501st risks to be excluded from future sales of accurate stuff if no security or protection from recasters is part of their rules. And I feel this is an issue that I will have to further discuss with my staff at my own forum.

    Any new news on AP's new armor?

    in Sandtrooper Armor

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    I'd be wary of posting stuff on AP's behalf. Sharing info is great but I wouldn't put up contact info or pricing publicly. Especially considering some of the rumors I've heard lately.

    Well, wasn't asking for public info... you can pm me, if you got any info to share!?

    I've bought from AP before, but not sure my info is up to date, nor my contact info.

    Any new news on AP's new armor?

    in Sandtrooper Armor

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    Thats what I read on FISD. Its a shame, the .060 ABS is so much sharper in detail than .080 ABS.

    FISD?

    And thanks for the info... need to update the info on my forum now to reflect what is actually being offered by AP.

    Would it be possible to get some info on current pricing too... as my contact seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth. Thanks in advance.

    Original ROTJ Stormtrooper Background Studio Helmet-Got One!

    in The Barracks

    Posted

    Thats not what i said. I said if the ROTJ helmets were recasts of a ANH helmet (which is why the ROTJ helmets appear soft in detail)and then making cast from this actual ROTJ in ABS would make them even softer in detail(which would be a 2nd gen of ANH and 1st gen from a ROTJ. From my understanding the ABS is thicker and harder to pull detail then styrene. Thats why TE uses/used styrene.

    From what I know... the mold will be created from the inside of the helmet... thus making the vac-formed cast and exact duplicate of the original.

    The reason the RotJ helmets were so soft is that they vac-formed on top of an actual ESB suit... not on top of a mold.

    If this is wrong... please let me know.

    I'd definitely be interested in one of these... def in ABS and most likely in kit form... and would love some additional info! Though... the price would definitely be a factor to consider for me, though...

    Protected images?

    in The Barracks

    Posted

    Pictures are gone again.

    With IMDB.com you can also open the image, open "View" and "Page Source", copy the link of the picture into another browser and then save it from there. It takes a little while... but well worth it as you get the high-res picture.

    Any way of sending those pictures my way too, please? no.humor.man@webspeed.dk

    Thanks

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