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Private - Black Pauldron TD breakdown

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Post #43 of this thread brings up some of the same points, Nick. It's definitely a pack/pauldron combo not included in Rolf/Panda's descriptions. I'd like to know what kind of pouch that is on his left hip.

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Pat, just saw that mate, I dunno how I missed it.

Kind of wish I'd gone for modelling this guy for my build now as I think he's kind of unique.

Nick

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  • Wish there was a close-up of his left hip pouch from the alley check scene.
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Sorry guys I opened another topic about this, but I notice the presence of drop boxes in the desert scene on the black pauldron sandtroopers.

The left one has the binocular hanging from the neck.

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As said in the other thread Ruggero, these are from the Special Edition of EpIV and are not considered proper Sandtroopers.

Nick

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Yeah, the SE sandtroopers used ROTJ armour so they don't match up with the armour used in the original version of ANH.

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I think I should open another topic to have a reply... :whistling:

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It is very difficult to see.

I think he has the canvas MP38/40 pouch on the shoulder... but then again, thats a big "I think".

I would have to search my references to find a more clear shot of that trooper behind the scenes if possible. But I dont think we will find any definite proof.

Do you have any other reason to think it is a leater MP40 pouch other than what we can see in those pictures?

I love this part of the hobby, researching and discussing is as fun as building or wearing armor.

:)

Saludos

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If you check in motion is better than try to discover something in these stills.

I am not sure about the material if leather or canvas, but I can say that the guy over there has the shoulder pouche and the DLT-19.And I haven't seen this combination in the other sandtroopers.

Anyway this is could be fertile ground for a good discussion.

I'll check on the BluRay version :duim:

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Then I would suggest this :)

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Here we go, images of the "Enlisted" TD's with black pauldrons.

Rolf's original diagram

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I can't see the first pic...

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Hey Ruggero, the link is broken cause many times Rolf just downloads his pictures.

Never mind, it was the diagram he drew to show the cinfiguration of this (and all) trooper.

The diagram made by Pandatrooper is a very good reference, bases on Rolf's.

Follow that to have a better idea/comprehension of all versions of TDs seen on screen, but, some of this diagrams are running outdated cause of new discoveries made by members here everyday. Just follow them as guidelines and not as law and you will be fine.

If you have any question on any specific trooper, feel free to post.

Saludos

Juan

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agreed,they are great diagrams but if you think you see anything different post on here for

us all to see as you maybe right.

the fact is there are so many different combinations with the "behind the scenes" pics that

it would be so hard for them to print everthing! :thumbsup:

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okaaaay!

out of all the troopers you could pick,you choose that one!lol

i dont know of any better pics myself,unless someones aware of him in another scene.

the hard thing for S.W.A.T. would be knowing what pack it is and i suppose theres no weathering pics.

i would wait for maybe rolf to chime in,hes your reference man! :thumbsup:

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okaaaay!

out of all the troopers you could pick,you choose that one!lol

i dont know of any better pics myself,unless someones aware of him in another scene.

the hard thing for S.W.A.T. would be knowing what pack it is and i suppose theres no weathering pics.

i would wait for maybe rolf to chime in,hes your reference man! :thumbsup:

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A lot of insight here and also a lot to take in as well. I am also going with a sandy with a black shoulder pauldrin and an e11. Thanks for all of the time and research that has gone into this thus far.

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Please excuse the mega post- but I have a proposed configuration for the Roadblock Private with the RT-97C and cheese grater handplates, and am fairly confident that I have it all mapped out properly.

Load Out as follows:

RT-97C
Pack #1
Black Pauldron
Leather MP 38/40 Shoulder Pouch (no tool kit)
Roadblock Pouch on Right Hip
Small Spanish Pouch on Left Hip
**Cheese Grater Handplates***

Here you can see the trooper on the right is our man- you can just make out the tiny SSP on his left hip.
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Here is his now second from the left- Roadblock pouch on right hip visible
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Cheese Graters now visible
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Now head on- Note the handplates switch from Cheese Grater to standard. But this is a continuity error, and not the only one.
In the below mapped out pix the trooper in question (and in the pic just above this) you can see that our trooper in question has a VERY low brow on his bucket- vs the head-on below shot.
So we've got a case of "pile up the costumes and then refit with whatever for the next shot" or something, because also looking at the original two black pauldron troopers on the left side at the START of the scene (frame 100/180), neither of them have a brow as high as the two black pauldron troopers on either side of C-3p0 in the below shot. So we've got at least two buckets that have been swapped in addition to the disappearing cheese graters.

*** sorry to muddy the waters here, I'm not trying to. I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies between the initial roadblock scene and the close up shot of the "Move Along" captain and his team behind***

The Captain who is standing right next to our chappy in question is behind the SE orange droid walking through the scene.
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To show continuity with this trooper I have mapped out the entire path of the proposed trooper, scene by scene:

Sorry for the size, but there is a LOT going on in this shot.

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Sorry to post over the top of myself, but weirdly, it appears that our chap in question has his right bicep either cut in an upward scoop on the outside edge, or is wearing it backward.  
Reference frames 114 & 116 above. Look at the upward arc of the lower outside edge of his bicep plate.  That can't be normal, right? ;)

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Nice work on mapping out the scene. I have been working on the enlisted/private/corporal with the DLT-19 and no pouches.  I have run into the same problem as P3laton3, very few shots of him and the few I have found seem to have him with different armor pieces and weathering.  If SWAT is to be obtained I may not be able to use this configuration. 

Asher. 

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