1970s Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Hey Guys, Don't know if you guys noticed - but I think they actually bought different size siphons for the backpacks - I you look at some of the backpack photos from ANH, sometimes the top part of the siphon (where the 2 pipes meet) is higher on the backpack even though the "bellows" part of the siphon is in the same spot. I have noticed while looking for the Correct siphon, that the modern siphons around today come in multiple sizes and I think that was probably true back then. thanks, jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakengine Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Hey Guys, Don't know if you guys noticed - but I think they actually bought different size siphons for the backpacks - I you look at some of the backpack photos from ANH, sometimes the top part of the siphon (where the 2 pipes meet) is higher on the backpack even though the "bellows" part of the siphon is in the same spot. I have noticed while looking for the Correct siphon, that the modern siphons around today come in multiple sizes and I think that was probably true back then. thanks, jack That very well could be. I've also noticed that some have more pronounced ridges on the "bellows" (what is that part of the siphon really called?) than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 (what is that part of the siphon really called?) than others. after all i read, the left tube has to the "overflow tube" and the right part with the round ribbed below part is called "piston". the complete part of both tubes and the ribbed below part seems to be called "(tank) fill valve"... here is a link to some toilet diagrams: http://www.terrylove.com/hunter.htm (guys, i really do hope my mom never finds out what i do in my sparetime...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 FWIW we call them fill valves in the US also. There is typically a float ball or some other floating device on the valve neck itself that shuts off the water. I think when we are saying "cistern" that is actually referring to the tank itself (the ceramic thing that holds the water). I have a background in remodeling, with kitchen & bath stuff in particular. So I know this stuff for other reasons too. The ones stateside look nothing like these, old or new & I have seen a lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-4935 Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 now that we have a complete object to look at for reference (rather than thinking about individual parts as before), i'm thinking about sculpting the "siphon" in two halves and vac-forming it. although Mike has done a magnificent job of fabricating some of the individual parts i thought that if this piece could be done as a whole (or in two halves and put together) it would make it all a little more stable. I know mine keeps coming apart with travel stress so i'd also like to make it easier to take off so may design some sort of bracket system to intergrate into it. if anybody else feels like taking up the challenge, amongst us there are some amazingly talented people, then maybe we could stop raiding peoples toilets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 We only need to find one, then we'll all be able to have a one-part lightweight replica. Vac-forming it as two halves would be a little difficult, and you would lose detail at spots. Ideally, it would be cast in a foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakengine Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 The problem is compounded by the fact that this is a mechanical device made up of several parts to begin with. It isn't manufactured as a single piece of plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 The advantage with doing a silicone mould is that holes/large undercuts/voids could simply be clayed prior to casting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-459 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 True. Also, even though it appears to be one unit, the part may break down into several pieces. That would make casting it easier. I got two new (old) images from a few people in the U.K. today but they weren't the right ones. Still fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo-tee-dee! Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Amusingly enough, Steve's toilet plumbing has gone **** up and bits are leaking everywhere (right thru the floorboards ), he had to call out an emergency plumber, and as the plumber was showing him the loo cistern inner, he was looking at all the plastic cistern bits and thinking "that could be adapted for Rache's TD backpack" That's my boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Amusingly enough, Steve's toilet plumbing has gone **** up and bits are leaking everywhere (right thru the floorboards ), he had to call out an emergency plumber, and as the plumber was showing him the loo cistern inner, he was looking at all the plastic cistern bits and thinking "that could be adapted for Rache's TD backpack" That's my boy This yank is easily amused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo-tee-dee! Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I thought it would provoke some sniggers Now if I could find someone to vacuform me a scoop I'd stop the obsessing over washing bottles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo-tee-dee! Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Talk about convenient coincidence!!! Steve's had the plumber round to sort out the loo and the leaking pipes....and as luck would have it he needed a new cistern thingie - and look at the old one that was saved for my backpack!!!! I'm sure this baby can be tweaked to fit perfect onto the burger stacker..... Perfect timing as we are starting the backpack build this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Cool, add a burger stack and you'll be good to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 That rocks!! Can't wait to see it finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGreatSot Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It's even already weathered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-459 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Didn't find one while I was in the U.K. I didn't really have a lot of time to look though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970s Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Hey Guys, I just got this syphon - it is not perfect but I was thinking of combining it with the "bellows" that I had already created to make a better version. It is actually rather large on the backpack - when I get a chance I will take a picture for you guys to see. Thanks, j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970s Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 O.K. - Sorry for the delay - I had a busy week - this is the Toilet Siphon from above resting on my backpack - the round cylinder part is kind of large. Thanks, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 man, that looks sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX3828 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Heres a spot to get em... http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/p-17 ... n-unit.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caomhanach Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 What have people been using as the Hamburger stacker dome that the cistern attaches to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo-tee-dee! Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Heres a spot to get em... http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/p-17 ... n-unit.asp That's the same as the one in Steve's loo :o I've just got another request from a US Trooper to send him one of these cisterns: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.js...=44047&ts=64776 To save on bulk postage I may start an interest thread on who wants one of these, as they are cheaper than the £9.95 one in the first URL. Shipping to the states was £9 plus £1.50 for the box I have to buy to send it in. I can get a bulk order in and save postage to get them to me, then ship them to individual troopers? Postage to me is free but there is a £5.95 "packing and handling" fee that remains the same no matter how many cisterns I order. Better to order bulk than individually and have to keep paying the £5.95? What you think.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maj_hassel Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'd buy one. Any way to get ne if the interest thread is unsuccessful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo-tee-dee! Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Aaaaarghhhh! I knew this would happen - I waited and waited and had a couple of troopers interested, so I PMd them both after a while and only one responded, so I've JUST ordered ONE for him today.....so if you want one too I'll have to order another one seperately, and you will be hit with the full handling and packing charge - if you'd posted a day earlier you guys could have split it between yourselves. PM me if you want me to get one for you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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