TD7722 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I've read in several places around the web about MG-42's being used by sandtroopers, but I have never seen one in a picture. Does anyone have actual visable proof that they were used on-screen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD7606 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 well when I get home I´ll try to get you some movie stills, but you can see this article form star wars site who said: There are three main kinds of Imperial blasters seen in Star Wars. One is a variation on a German MG-34 machine gun from the 1930s, with the shoulder stock removed at one end and the barrel shortened at the other. Another is the MG-42, which was mass-produced during World War II. The third is the British Sterling Mk 4 used in the 1950s, a submachine gun with an air-cooled barrel; vents, sights, and scopes were added. The Sterling became the standard Imperial sidearm for the Stormtroopers. Modified further, it also served the Rebel fighters on board Princess Leia's Blockade Runner. you can see the article Star Wars: The Magic of Myth at the Smithsonian hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtNimrod Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 (disregard the yellow arrow) from the davin felth site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovesand&dirt Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Uh. I think that is the MG-34 not the MG-42 in those ANH pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtNimrod Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 o crap i misread wut he was asking I thought he was asking for the 34. wow im out of it today and me loving german weaponry from WWII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWolf13 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I thought the TDs BFGs were the Lewis, MG-15 & MG-34. If I remember right, the MG-42 was a heavy machine gun from WW2. Looked like a bulked up version of the MG-34 but I could be wrong. EDIT: I found some links to compare the 2 guns: MG-34- http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg32-e.htm MG-42- http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg33-e.htm They're pretty similar, but I don't recall ever seeing the MG-42. I may have missed it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtNimrod Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I found that dengar carries it but other than that I dont think any of the sandtroopers carried it cause a 42 probally costs much more than a 34. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... en%26lr%3D thats where i found it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD7722 Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 Heres an example of what I've seen - MG-42: http://sci-fire.com/mg42_closeups.htm MG-34: http://sci-fire.com/mg34.htm I dont ever recall seeing the 42 in ANH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD9009 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yes, Sandtroopers use MG-15, MG-34 and the Lewis Machinegun model 1917 caliber.30 The only character I rember, who uses MG-42 is Dengar, al told us by SgtNimrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfive Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 There is a still I have seen of the speeder scene where if you look closely you see the barrel of one the blasters. It has the rectangular vents(and if I remember no inner barrel). The 34 had round holes similiar to the sterling. the only firearm I have seen with the rectangular vents was the 42. I will dig around for it and post it if I find it. CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 You're probably seeing the rubber strips that covered the vent holes a-la E11. AFAIK the MG42 isn't anywhere in ANH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 There is a still I have seen of the speeder scene where if you look closely you see the barrel of one the blasters. It has the rectangular vents(and if I remember no inner barrel). The 34 had round holes similiar to the sterling. the only firearm I have seen with the rectangular vents was the 42. I will dig around for it and post it if I find it. CJ That is the MG-15 barrel shroud you are seeing. The barrels were not used as the entire receiver of the MG-15 was a resin casting with only the front half being metal, much like one of the MG-34s and even the E-11s. This was because of the gun restriction laws in Tunisia. How they got the Lewis in there is a mystery to me as it appears to be authentic and complete. In regard to the MG-42, from what I have seen, there is not even the slightest indication of one being seen. I don't know where sci-fire got their info on this, but from what I have seen, they are incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 copy that... i followed the sandtrooper scenes picture by picture more than once and i didn´t see a MG-42... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 On a somewhat related subject, what about authenticating the barrel fins on the MG-34, like the ones on the E-11? The only reproduction I've seen like this is the small Stormtrooper Bust-Up. I also seem to recall a brief glance at a MG-34 in the 'Move Along' scene where these fins can be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 The fins are definitely there although poorly spaced and spaced differently on the front half than on the back half. I can perhaps make a rough sketch for the placement based off my research of some archive pics as well as the pics found in Chronicles. Here is a picture of my MG-34 with the fins in the correct placement based on my research. As you can see... the placement is very shabby. Also, for anyone who didn't know. The fins were attached with wire as can be seen on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Here is a rough fin alignment guide based on my research. Please note that the real fins were attached in a very sloppy and inprecise manner. The alignment below is only intended as a guide. I highly recommend you take a look for yourself to get more exact placement but this should get you started as the images can be very confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Interesting! Thanks for sharing. One of the guys in the OLG has a deactivated MG-34, I thought it waaayyy to heavy to troop with. My hyper firm one has served me well. I may just go ahead and pick up some T track and attach them in similar fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, hyperfirm is def the way to go for trooping although there is nothing in the world like holding the real thing. each fin is beveled at both the front and the back. I will try to get some closeup pics later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Here are pics of the front sections of my MG34 for ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWolf13 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Just great! More things to add to my list of supplies! Thanks for the pix. Those are great. They'll help immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't know it all, but if there is anything I can do to help, I will be more than glad to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't know it all, but if there is anything I can do to help, I will be more than glad to. Last time I bought some T track for my E-11, I got it from Here Yours looks different. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Andrews Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Honestly, I don't know where my T track came from... I got it from a friend who said it was offered several years ago as a special run. I only got enough to finish out the E-11 and MG-34. I can take a good closeup of the end if you would like to get a better view of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethB6025 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Accurizing my MG34 is next on my list. What are the dimensions on the t-track you used? I was considering doing resin pieces. Thanks for the pics as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-1536 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Honestly, I don't know where my T track came from... I got it from a friend who said it was offered several years ago as a special run. I only got enough to finish out the E-11 and MG-34. I can take a good closeup of the end if you would like to get a better view of it. I think the T track from Blast-tech should work just fine. Practically the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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