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I think I noted that earlier based on the bust you posted, so yes the proposed CRL needs to be updated. It still notes having a shoulder pouch (not needed - see pic on page 1 and commented on) So what are we expecting here? Do we think existing TD's just swap the pack? are we thinking that TK's just muck up, add a pack and deliver? Or do we want actual ROTJ's converting or starting at the beginning? We seem to be talking all three here in my opinion. I don't think we can just add a pack and be SE - CRL has too many changes TK's should be a good starting point IF they do a couple of specific items - ie the helmet having the correct frown for example. An ROTJ style bucket is needed as as a minimum - no ANH helmet. I think that this level is needed for Basic Approval Preference of course is having the full ROTJ armor right off the bat. This is PO or SWAT level.

I just want to make sure everyone is clear on one point. The reason we have talked about letting ANH armor for level 1 is that LMO team won't accept partial or unfinished CRLs anymore, meaning that we would need at least one member with an approved costume to make this go live. Due the lack of current members with RotJ armor, that is why we've looked into this other route. We did initially want to make it pure RotJ armor across the board but we were denied by the LMO because we didn't have someone with a finished costume for the pictures. So, if we do go for pure RotJ across the board, we might have this in limbo until someone with RotJ armor can get the pieces to complete the CRL. Again, thank you to everyone who has voiced your opinion. As one of the command staff members, I take all of your input very seriously and I hope we can make the CRL something everyone can be proud of.

I dont often comment here..but lurk a lot! I STRONGLY disagree with allowing ANH style armour for this build..even as Lvl 1. It should be ROTJ style..or nothing.There are 2 very reliable vendors now for ROTJ armour( more vendors than some armours have!)..difficulty in aquiring the correct kit is not an issue. At the most lenient..modded ANH style armour could be allowed for Lvl 1..but must have the fat black frown...clam handplates..stickers for lid details..torso armour trim...etc. If you are just gonna use ANH armour..why even bother creating a SE CRL? I also think E-11 and black pauldron should be the only ones accepted. For all ontents and purposes..no other SE Sandie bariant exists. Sent from my R4 unit using Tapatalk

Special Edition troopers wear ROTJ armour. If you are replicating this version of trooper then you should wear ROTJ armour. It's pretty simple really. There is no point going SE otherwise, just stay ANH.

Really my only issue is the paint. If ESB trooper basic approval requires the black frown and other painted details (on ANH armor) I think the SE should at least require the same painted requirements (ie. black frown, correct tube stripes, trap stripes, button colors, etc). All the modifications would be easy, without those mods it's basically a heavier weathered HWT that doesn't require a pack. I totally agree thy using ANH armor will make this costume much more accessable, but we can improve on it a bit when we have the opportunity.

Then we're talking about 2 different starting points...you think of the troopers who already have an approved RotJ (not much of them around, you're right) , I'm thinking of entirely new builds for the SE trooper. But the number of producers is a good argument I have to admit. I'm only aware of TM and CfO. The costs are the same as ANH Armor, there should be no big difference. As to getting people into the Legion with a SE Trooper as their first costume: Wouldn't it be really bad for them if they want to go the PO or SWAT route and realize they won't be able to because of their armor? I think the wording in the CRL should be changed for all LvL2 and up and specify for every single part that the RotJ armor is needed. There is one sentence in the beginning, but you know how this works....people don't read properly and it shouldn't be harder for new recruits as it already is, should it?

One more thing....I also feel the pack should be required at all levels.

The CRL looks good, but I've found a few things that bug me: - Handguards: If LvL2/3 is accurate RotJ-armor, they shouldn't be made of latex or similar material. ABS shells are the way to go. - Chest-armor: Original Strapping in RotJ didn't use brackets and screws, so they shouldn't be present for LvL2/3. - Backpack: There is no SE Trooper without a pack, so why is it optional? I'm still not happy with the ANH-Armor being used for basic approval. We are one of the most accurate detatchments and we're proud of it. Why lower our standards by accepting ANH-Armor for the SE-Trooper when it clearly is RotJ? But I don't want to make a fuss, just my 2 cents [emoji6]

The CRL looks good, but I've found a few things that bug me: - Handguards: If LvL2/3 is accurate RotJ-armor, they shouldn't be made of latex or similar material. ABS shells are the way to go. - Chest-armor: Original Strapping in RotJ didn't use brackets and screws, so they shouldn't be present for LvL2/3. - Backpack: There is no SE Trooper without a pack, so why is it optional? I'm still not happy with the ANH-Armor being used for basic approval. We are one of the most accurate detatchments and we're proud of it. Why lower our standards by accepting ANH-Armor for the SE-Trooper when it clearly is RotJ? But I don't want to make a fuss, just my 2 cents [emoji6]

The CRL looks good, but I've found a few things that bug me: - Handguards: If LvL2/3 is accurate RotJ-armor, they shouldn't be made of latex or similar material. ABS shells are the way to go. - Chest-armor: Original Strapping in RotJ didn't use brackets and screws, so they shouldn't be present for LvL2/3. - Backpack: There is no SE Trooper without a pack, so why is it optional? I'm still not happy with the ANH-Armor being used for basic approval. We are one of the most accurate detatchments and we're proud of it. Why lower our standards by accepting ANH-Armor for the SE-Trooper when it clearly is RotJ? But I don't want to make a fuss, just my 2 cents [emoji6]

Don't see why not!

So do I get to be the first Sandtrooper SE? [emoji16] Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

Cheers bud, I've got my pic hosting situation sorted. I just need access to the reference photos that were posted in the SWAT section before Photobucket disabled them all...